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Today Ben dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to discuss Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald and try and determine why Dumbledore can’t move against Grindelwald and instead needs Newt to do it for him

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34 thoughts on “Watch Now France vs Australia Why Dumbledore Can’t Move Against Grindelwald | Fantastic Beasts Theory”

    1. I dont think Dumbledore and Grindlewald were in love. I think Dumbledore loved Grindlewald so Grindlewald used that to his advantage to manipulate Dumbledore. I also think Dumbledore knew this.
      P.S. Its funny my spell check recognizes Dumbledore but not Grindlewald.

    2. +hopper727rs great theory! Easily an abusive relationship as well. A good person being manipulated bey someone they shouldn’t admire? Happens all too often.

  1. At some point many years ago before 1899, the wand eventually ended up in the possession of the wandmaker Mykew Gregorovitch. Upon realising that it was the most powerful wand in existence, Gregorovitch began experimenting to try and duplicate its powers.

  2. Dumbledore’s a spymaster, not a spy, so it is utterly in character that he wouldn’t confront Grindelwald until he absolutely has to…after all, he staked a child out as Judas goat for, what, 5 books before he faced Voldemort himself? And he made Voldemort…

  3. Wait. Did Grindelwald have the elder wand during the time of Arianas death?
    Didn’t he not get it after going from godrics hollow?

  4. Dumbledore didn’t move against grindlewald because he was in love with him. He had to use someone else because he felt guilty for enabling grindlewald and torn because they were in love when they were young. I didn’t pull that out of nowhere by the way remember JK Rowling has said this exact thing in the past

  5. Theory: Why does Dumbledore not have a Beard in fantastic beasts?

    My reasoning: In the books and movies Dumbledore goes to see Tom riddle and we see it in the pensive, in the books and (I think) movies he has an Amber coloured beard that is not as long as Dumbledore‘s in the present.
    But in the trailers for crimes of grindlewald he doesn’t look like young Santa. EXPLAIN, JK. EXPLAIN.

  6. My theory: Grindelwald and Dumbledore were lovers, secret lovers… It passed MANY YEARS since Grindelwald started killing muggles and crimes, and Dumbledore did very few. That’s why he always said he was not that good.

  7. Unfortunately there’s one issue with the theory: according to Grindelwald’s wiki page he only got the Elder wand after he killed the sister so the Elder wand wasn’t the one that killed her (and a far as i know the spells shown are only the ones the wand casts and not all the ones the wizard casts). Granted this theory could hold water if Dumbledore and Grindelwald’s original wands (not the Elder) were brothers and he didn’t know Grindelwald got the Elder Wand (you said he knows he had the wand but i haven’t seen anything from the first movie that indicated that and i haven’t really watched any trailers besides the first for the upcoming movie to avoid spoilers) at the time the movies take place. So the likely reasons are:
    1. He’s being investigated (like you mentioned) for some reason
    2. He may love him like you said due to what the mirror shows so he’s too conflicted at the moment
    3. For my own interpretation of the mirror: He’s afraid that the mirror is showing that he desires power like Grindelwald had and fears he’ll be corrupted by it (also makes sense with the quote you took from the end of the original Harry Potter series)
    4. He’s not confident that he could win and is looking for a means to defeat him and hasn’t had the trigger that would push him to finally do so like he does later (for some reason i have the feeling Newt will be involved with the catalyst for Dumbledore to decide to fight Grindelwald for the last time…most likely it’ll be Newt fighting Grindelwald but then Newt will be incapacitated and Dumbledore will be forced to end it leading to their legendary final duel).

  8. You keep saying it MIGHT reveal who killed her. Well apparently it didn’t because old dumbledore still doesn’t know who killed her, right?

  9. If the elder wand is theoretically made by entioch does that mean the brother is the younger wand which he made for one of his brothers

  10. Perhaps not a wand meant to be a brother, but the last prototype before ignotus created the final elder wand. If he had access to a threstal he probably had to go through several tries to make elder wood work in the first place, not to mention with such an unconventional core as threstal hair. It could easily be that ignotus had two successes but kept trying after the first because it wasn’t quite up to his standard.

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